Oh fuck.

Oh fuckety fuckety fuck.

Co-proxamol is the literally the only painkiller I can take which actually works when I have a serious pain problem (I’m allergic to morphine/codeine, anti-inflammatory drugs make me puke and muscle relaxants can put me in a wheelchair).

Oh fuck.

Buggery bugger bugger from here too.

That’s about the only thing that comes close when I get period pain!

I agree. It is a rubbish decision. Patients and prescribers were in favour of continued use – the RCP etc seem to have overruled them.

I feel so unhappy about the withdrawal of Co Proxamol, that I have implemented a discussion forum on http://www.coproxamol.org.uk. I hope, enough patients will visit in order to gather momentum and stop the withdrawal.

Huh !
I find co-proxamol is about the best pain killer on the market got more to-day. Stock up. I have used other without success inc patches they dont work.
I recently got tramadol after appedix removal they make me sleepy paracetamol have little or no effect at all except reduce fevers.dhc continous are good too but morphine iv at hospital is the best.
Long live co-proxamol

I can’t believe it! I went to collect my repeat prescription today, and co-proxamol was crossed out, and I was given paracetamol instead!
I have been taking coprox for more than 10 years, 8 a day, for chronic pain. I am really concerned that I might get withdrawal symptoms now. I have not been able to wean myself off the drug, as suggested. My Dr hasn’t discussed an alternative drug, and I feel really gutted that I may be back to square one pain wise. I also take Zydol and Dihydrocodeine,but Coprox has always been there every 4-6 hours to ease the pain regularly, though it never goes away completely. Does anyone know a similar,suitable substitute. What about Codydramol? Is that the same? Please help if you can. Thanks.

if you join emed they charge £20 membership then £15 per prescription. depends what pharmacy they send it to but it costs either £13 or £30 for 200 with next day delivery.

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I have taken “co-prox” on an irregular basis now for about 10 years to counter the increasing pain caused be arthritis and have had no problem of addiction whatever. I have always avoided alcohol when taking it having been warned of the potential danger and I resent this blanket withdrawal. I really cannot accept that we are ALL so daft that we need to be dealt with in this high-handed way. Why on earth can’t our G.P.’s be allowed to use their discretion?

People here trying to save this drug

What the hell is de point of taking co-proxamol off the market just because of people who are stupid enough to use them as suicide pills when people can just go from pharmacy to pharmacy nd get loads of paracetemol which are easier to get and can also be used for suicied.

P.S. Does anyone know where co-proxamol can be got from now it is off the market, I was told that it was possible to get it off the internet, bu8t I can’t find anywhere?

co proxamol is an ace pain killer and when your suffering its a fuckin great buzz they are selfish and i fuckin hate this country ive been on them scince i waS 16 IM KNOW 27 IM WITH YOU ALL ON THIS

I have been taking co-proximol for 12 years. Last april my doctor told me that as they were taking it off the market, I couldn’t have any more, so I might as well get used to something else. I can’t take codeine, becaue of bowel problems. all other drugs tried so far have made me ill. I had one hell of a summer last year. Then bliss, my doctor went away for 6 months and his locum said I could have them if the chemist still stocked them. All chemists near me still have them in stock. Now my doctor is back and won’r give them to me any more. I seize up without co-proximol and dread the future. I spoke to someone from the Pharma. Co who produced the last batch I have. I was told there is a possibility they may start making them again later this year. I pray that will be the case.

I have just read the comments regarding co proxamol and I too agree that banning this medication is not going to make the slightest bit of difference to someone who wants to kill themselves. I have been using this drug for 10 years for severe back pain and now its been taken away. All us responsible users are now suffering because there is no alternative, nothing else gives effective relief. REVERSE THE BAN and treat people as individuals. It is our right to have a say in what is best for us, as said before, if someone wants to die they will do it with whatever else they can get there hands on. This ban is not going to lower the suicide rate.

weve been sold out by the greedy bastards

Can all morons thinking of suicide do it with something else please. Leave Co-Prox for people in pain.
I’ve been on it for months now for a spinal problem, but it doesn’t help at all when the pains is bad. Two / three / four days unrelenting agony and the only way out is my Co-Prox, but I gave my Doc my word that I wouldn’t. (I’m saving some Diazapam etc as I gave my word about Co-Prox)
I could pack Co-Prox up tomorrow with no effort but the substitutes don’t suit me either. Someone suggested Morphine drip is the best! I found it had no effect at all. The pain remained but I was half concious with Morphine.
The only thing I will say is, that if you get hooked, put up with the pain to get off them. Start again with alternatives.
I’ve just finished a Morphine course, and it was a couple of really bad days coming off it, but who needs an addiction as well as the pain.

I agree with most of your comments. I too have to take this drug for arthritis and do not know what the hell I am going to do. Does this mean the end to my gardening?.I have written to the DOH and received a standards answer. I have now written to my MP whose secretary has forwarded my letter to the DOH..I suppose that I will receive yet another standard reply. I used to run a Drug Advice Centre for 12 years and I find it hard to comprehend why, when 1million+ people are using this drug…that suicides of 400+ are used as a reason for withdrawing it. When I visited a liver ward of a hospital I was informed that people could die from a dose as low as 8 paracetamol tablets. Paracetamol is surely the cause of the deaths and not the dextopropoxyphene???? People were stopped from buying large quantities of paracetamol by the companies reducing the amount available for sale at any one time. But we all know that if one is intent on committing suicide, then a few visits to your local supermarket would do the trick. Have they stopped the production of paracetamol???? NO.
If there are any people willing or ABLE to pay a visit to the powers that be I would gladly come along…no matter how much it hurts.

like you paul its the same with me but i still go to the doctors and insist i get the distalgesic i have just come away this morning with another box and i intend to keep trying till i do so for as long as it takes good luck to you all

I have taken Co-Proxamol, responsibly, for chronic back pain for the last ten years. Now my doc has presecribed Co-Dydramol and guess what, it doesent touch my pain and it gives me constipation as a bonus. I agree with all my other fellow sufferers on this page and deplore this ridiculous ‘nanny state’ attitude and find it difficult to imagine that is the only reason for withdrawal of this drug, which seems to be the only one that does the job for so many chronic pain suffers. Don’t we have rights too? If there was an effective alternative then there would be no problem but apparently there isn’t and at fifty years of age I face many years of pain ahead of me, a much reduced quality of life, which not only affects me but my family and friends too. Well done POWERS THAT BE, what a great public service you’ve done, I hope you are sleeping content in your bed tonight because I sure as hell won’t be or ever again, for that matter.

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what do i do and i will do it

they are stupid sods you wont get a painkiller like them anywhere bring them back !!!!!!

My mother (82 – her age, not her name) has been happily using co-proxamol for years to relieve arthritis pain in her shoulders, neck and head. This is pain that leaves her in bits when it strikes. It strikes often.

She has taken the drug sensibly and frugally since it was first prescribed for her. Working on the theory that some pain and three doses a day is better than four doses a day as the norm (and then she is stymied when the pain gets worse), she has eked out her allowance for years. And then the government decided (around the time it was hugely embarrassed by Dr David Kelly topping himself on co-proxamol. Moi? A cynic? How could you suggest such a thing?) that mere mortals are not to be trusted to take strong medicines. Let’s face it, we are all suicide cases just waiting to leap on a box of co-proxamol… aren’t we?

The upshot is that my mother is now fighting her way through a variety of replacement drugs. None work and, worse, all make her feel either dreadful or seriously ill. And as for “paracetemol is just as effective”…. why do you think she went to the doctor in the first place? Because over-the-counter remedies don’t touch the pain.

This government wants us to believe that they are protecting us from harm, that co-proxamol can kill us if we wish to commit suicide. In that case Mr Blair, remove every prescription drug from the market place. Remove all household cleaning products… dammit, remove water from our reach. If you drink too much water, it, too, can kill you (it flushes out all the salts and electrolytes from your system and you end up pushing up the daisies). Ask the actor, Anthony Andrews, who almost went toes up through drinking too much of the stuff. Oh, and ban buses, tubes, cars, trucks and trains – people throw themselves in front of same on a regular basis. Although quite where that would leave Ken Linvingstone and his congestion charge, who knows….

The suggestion that co-proxamol is being withdrawn because it is cheap to produce, is hugely effective and has few side effects and, therefore, is stopping other drugs companies from making millions of pounds from more complicated yet less effective products does ring true.

Let’s face it, this government is millions in hock to private financiers (“Roll up, roll up – anyone wanna buy a peerage? Step right up…”)so kow-towing to a few drugs companies might seem like a good idea. Meanwhile the voters can suffer in pain and frustration.

In the meantime, my mother battles on. She is 82, has paid her taxes all her life, has done what she is told and has asked little of the state. And now the state tells her that, for the common good, she should spend the rest of her days in agony. My mother, like the rest of the people contributing to this forum, has a voice. Why will the state not listen to it?

My mother took coproxamol for many years for chronic arthritis pain. Nothing on Earth works better for her. My father, a retired GP, and she,a retired nurse, are disgusted by it’s withdrawal. Such decisions are none of the goverment’s business and they have no place dictating what’s “best” for people. If they gave a shit about anything but lining their pockets they’d ban cigarettes, a real killer, they’d plough money into preventing further damage to the planet so people who don’t want to top themselves actually have somewhere for them and future generations TO live in, stop war-mongering, and fix instead of fuck the NHS. If they must nanny us, how about they supply unemployed parents with “healthy-food tokens” to feed their offspring decent food instead of handing over working-peoples money for them to spend on fags, lottery and micro-chips? I, also a nurse, have developed arthritis at the age of 33, so have many years of pain to look forward to without the availability of a superb painkiller with few unpleasant side-effects, such as codeine and tramadol (barf!) and NSAIDS (could live without a perforated duodenal ulcer, ta). Great. Think I’ll go and top myself thanks Blair. You Fuck.

My mother is 76 and has been taking co-proxomol for years with no problems. Over the years she has tried various other alternatives but always returns to co-proxomol. Can any of the “so-called” experts imagine what it is like watching someone in such constant pain that they cry all day and night and seriously contemplate suicide as they really can’t take any more without their prescription of Co-proxomol. They are so worried about the 400 suicides but what about the genuine patients who overdose in trying to find alternatives and particularly elderly people who may get confused taking three or four alternatives along with other medication they may be on. As a daughter I would be willing to pay whatever it costs to buy co-proxomol from another country and will do my f****y best to find some. This decision is destroying thousands of lives, it is absolutely heart-breaking seeing someone you love in such pain.

MY LIFE HAS CHANGED AFTER LOOSING THE PILL I SUFFER WITH PAIN ALLTHE TIME KNOW I COULD DO WITH HELP IN FINDING A PLACE TO BUY THEM.

I can discern a very clear pattern here – one of dismal medical incompetence and a blinkered refusal to listen to coherent and consistent patient feedback. If Franz Kafka had lived longer the medical profession would have provided him with material for another iconic novel.

As a preliminary remark, I should state that I take medicines with great reluctance. The human body is a finely tuned machine and, while it can be resilient, it is not invulnerable and can be damaged by artificial substances, whether they be junk food, additives, recreational drugs or medicines.

However, 12 years ago I suffered an injury in the back/shoulder area while playing tennis. I had my arm outstretched to hit the ball, and my body was also rotating, so that I could get more power. Something just gave. Physiotherapy helped to some degree, but the doctors had to keep me on co-proxamol long term. I have taken it, not constantly, but regularly, since then.

It is a very effective painkiller and is particularly good at easing severe headaches caused by injuries further down the spine which transmit pain upwards. The claim that paracetamol is equally effective is unquestionably incorrect and almost absurd. This is an attempt by the medical profession to justify their decision to withdraw the drug. A qualified survey analyst ought to go through any studies which claim to demonstrate this statement: I suspect that flaws will be found in the methodology or the calculations.

The argument that co-proxamol can be used for suicide is redundant given that one can buy 100 500mg paracetamol tablets over the counter, whereas one needs a prescription for co-proxamol tablets, which contain only 325mg of paracetamol. (Ten 500mg paracetamol tablets will kill you if taken at once.)

I noticed that, with regard to the latter point, doctors went through a phase of saying that the 325mg of paracetamol plus the dextropropoxyphene were just as dangerous as the 500mg of paracetamol – before realising that this cast something of a shadow over their claim that paracetamol and co-proxamol were ‘equally effective’ as painkillers. The mask slipped for a second there.

I have stopped taking co-proxamol on a number of occasions. There are withdrawal symptoms: in my case, as I did not take the maximum dose, I just felt a bit odd for a few days, but I can imagine that it might be worse for someone taking 8 tablets per day. Do not stop suddenly.

The alternatives to co-proxamol look particularly unappealing.

I would support any reasonable action to have this ban reversed.

i want to thank the lady josie for saying about offshore its true and darvin is co proxamol dextropropoxyphene 32.5 paracetamol 325

Come to think of it, if Co-Proxamol was the second highest drug at 18% used by people to commit suidcide, how come tricyclic antidepressants at 22% have not been banned also?

It appears the greatest misuse of Co-Prox was amongst 18 to 24 yr olds, I have to ask what symptoms were these young people dislaying to their GP’s in order to obtain them, assuming they were prescribed and not taken or stolen from relatives?

Following surgery to my lower jaw in 1980 which left me with nerve damage causing excruitiating pain in my lower face and teeth – I had been taking co-proxamol for 25 years – every day without a break – prior to its withdrawal with no bad side-effects or any problems whatsoever. My GP just stopped prescribing it overnight – no gradual withdrawal either – just a letter in the post saying NO MORE and a prescription for co-codamol! I suffered 6 months of horrific withdrawal symptoms that I would not wish on my worst enemy and was very unwell, coupled with endless attempts to find an alternative – co-codamol, co-dydramol, I tried them all but none of them worked. I also tried acupuncture, hypnosis, spiritual healing, and just about every other method of pain control known to man! Finally, my GP gave me Tramadol which I am currently taking at the rate of 8 tablets a day. I hate them because they leave me in a permanent drugged state and make me want to sleep most of the time. I have lost my job and cant work now as I am rarely without pain and the Tramadol just leave me lifeless, feeling unwell and unable to function properly. I am scared to go back to my GP to tell her this, because these tablets are the closest thing I have found to co-proxamol. I would be interested to hear any other folks experiences with Tramadol. I do not find them as effective at relieving pain as co-proxamol and I have to take them with 2 paracetamol each time to get the required amount of pain relief I need (which is what the GP suggested) – which means I am now taking 16 tablets a day! Co-proxamol gave me my life back after the surgery and enabled me to work and enjoy life again and continue in my career. I have tried to obtain them from overseas but all the pharmacies abroad that I have contacted via the internet have told me that they can no longer supply it to the UK as the Government has put a stop on it! The OFFSHORE pharmacy spoken of in an earlier post has a statement on their website which says WE DO NOT SHIP TO THE UK – so I am wondering how other folks have got them?I would LOVE to know of anywhere where I can obtain this drug – better still – I just hope and pray that this idiotic decision to withdraw it is eventually over-turned so that I and many others like me, can live again!

I have taken co-prox for twenty years and my pain is now increasing since i have been prescribed paracetamol is there a substitue other than this.It makes you wonder that if dr david kelly had not committed suicide ( if you believe that you believe in fairies)would it now be banned. All enquires to tony blair 10 downing st,

my brother got killed by lorry js b4 my daughter was born 21 yrs ago docter put me on sleeping tablets was so drowsy fell down every stair in my home damaging the whole of my spine enter co proxamal 4 21 years they have been a godsend ive bought up my daughter an lived a relativly good life now same as all letters ive read having to argue with docter to get them didnt know david kelly toook his own life with co prox thats y theyre stoppiin it there must be some thing we can do come on we are stronger than this goverment

I have been on co-prox for about 5 years and it is the only pain killer that works! if a SMALL percentage of people kill themselves acidentally thats a great shame of course obviously they shouldnt give them to the elderly unsupervised and i suppose the government think they will save money with an alternative but they help people function go to work earn a living and clean the *****y house i really feel i have to go sick every so often to rest my aching muscles but the feeling doesnt last . PLEASE N.I.C.E. RECONSIDER for the sanity of all these people before they all comit suicide! and if its at all possible these comments should be sent SOMEWHERE.

HI ALL I GET DISTALGESIC FROM http://WWW.PHARMA2U.COM ITS A UK SITE BUT THEY ARE SHIPPED FROM CYPRUS AT £35 FOR 100 TABS HOPE THIS HELPS YOU

My doctor has refused to help me as a named patient for co-proxamol. So I have written to Alan Johnson, my MP, various PCT’s and my consultant and all cannot help. This whole situation is a joke! I have severe bladder pain, asthma and allergies to drugs. Co-prox is my only option but still no-one will help me. The government just doesn’t want to be bothered with people like us who are in constant pain – it is an utter disgrace that we are having to source medication from abroad just to maintain a reasonable standard of life!!!

Bring back this effective & popular painkiler and overturn such a barbaric & outdated ban. With a Goverment like this,who needs enemies.Typical of a nanny state. These polititians have no idea how ordinry people live. Let the people of Great Britain have their say,and come election time the Labour Govt will find out they no longer run this country.

We really do need a source of this very effective pain killer if our all knowing nanny state is to really make it difficult or impossible to get. Alcohol and tobacco and many other “drugs” cause far more damage and ill health – not to say deaths – but this seems not to be a problem. I guess trying to ban both would cause more fuss than Sarkosy is at the moment.

I get almost instant relief from just one tablet (cannot risk taking two any more as I will eventually run out) that doesnt happen with NSAIDs and smarties are more effective than paracetamol.

Help.

Ive tried for over a year to get co proxamol for over a year on the internet every where says you cant get them bet tonight I struck lucky after reading a comment on a previous user Ive been on them for prob 15 years and havent had any for 7 months I suffer with headaches and these help me a lot but I must admit I was proper addicted I must be mad ordering them on line when I been of them for so long I had my own business and in a interview I used to ask “If you had a headache what tablet do you take” ha isnt that bad. We need a help group something like a AA. There is no other tablet that takes the pressure away like 2 co proxamols and a glass of water aaahhh. I can feel it now.

Is it still available overseas?
If so buy not buy it on line.
I am gutted by this political interference.

Hi, can anyone tell me if they have been successfull with http://www.pharma2u.com (ie-Daniel Giles) Please let me know, cause I’m having a bit of hassle!!

i do not know what i am going to do with out them i just not be able to go to work without co proxamal

HI TRICIA HOPE IT HAS HELPED YOU ALL THE BEST

To Tricia.Pharma2u.com provide a good service to chronic pain sufferers,they do have a problem though with delivering items late and an unhelpful admin department as you will see yourself.

I have been ploughing on ‘happily’ as a “named patient” through 2006/7 but now there is a total stop. Disaster. Does anyone know if the offshores can still supply in 2008 & onward?

I believe that GPs can still perscribe co-proxamol as long as they tell you that it is now no longer on lincence. However, getting them to do this might be problematic as the cost of the drug has rocketed. They can give a private perscription which will cost about £25 per 100 (which, if this figure is correct, is £10 cheaper than Pharma2u who, incidentally have given me excellent service).

As someone who can’t take any other painkiller for various reasons, co-proxamol is so important. I wish there was some way to campaign effectively…

reading everyones’ postings touches me – so much pain, so many courageous people, so much anger, justifiable anger. Like many, I’ve badgered my GPS and managed to find the one in the practice who would prescribe co proxamol – until very recently when everything changed. He’s now on holiday for two weeks and I can’t see him to discover if he’s going to authorise the cost or not, now they are so expensive to supply. I gather from the pharmacy that the cost is shared between the GP practise and the PCT. It’s not going to be an easy 2 weeks to wait. As a back up I’ve put an order in with http://www.Pharma2u.com but at £35 for a hundred and needing 8 a day, it’s another stress on a budget that is so reduced as I am no longer well enough to work because of pain. I had to fight hard to get disability living allowance recently, and the thought of going through another battle on my own is just crushing. Surely this is against our human rights? Does anyone know what the EU has to say about this? Pharma2u is in the EU, in Cyprus. I would like to join any pressure group. Best wishes to all fellow sufferers

pharma2u.com suck.they dont keep their promise on delivery times and you have to chase them for information.p.s. who the hell is jane smith anyway?sounds a bit dodgey to me,i wonder if mr.smith knows wot shes up 2.lol.

hello chris. has your order arrived yet ? just to let you know there not banned there just a very restricted drug

hi again chris if costoms got it it should still be released to you the same happened to me and i got a reship and both orders arrived on diffrent days fingers crossed all the best.

hi marko and anyone else who might have an interest, no sign of my order after nearly 4weeks.Offshore will reship, and nothing received from customs. anyone else now having problems?

How will i know if my coproxamol has been confiscated at customs….can anyone tell me please ?as i sent away 2 weeks ago ,to a offshore pharma…i have not received them …..Anne

Hello Anne, you would expect to get a letter from customs approx 3weeks after you placed your order. I have been waiting for same item as you for 4weeks, but nothing heard from customs. This has not been a problem until the last few weeks. Offshore-pharma will reship after 3 weeks. I suspect some of
these orders may not be reaching the uk. I will update. let me know what happens to your order problem.

Hi Chris ..if you happen to read this ..got an e mail from Pharmo ,they said my order had sent out fortnight ago …..do i believe them mmm i wonder ….

Hi Anne, Have ordered many times from offshore-pharma since late 2006, and apart from 1 confiscation in 2006 with customs letter, they have always delivered even when customs opened some they still sent it on to me. There is a problem now, i cannot believe customs are picking up all these orders. I am missing 2 orders now. I will have to email offshore pharma soon to try and get some info. Keep me posted, hope yours come through.

Hi Chris ..my order arrived this morning ..hope yours did too, would it be possible for you to answer my question ? as above ……well ,for future reference ….thanks Chris

Thanks Chris for being so helpful…

Hi Marco …no nothing to suggest customs had them ,Cypus stamp and Airmail stamp were the only things on the package ….

Oh how stupid of me Chris i thought they were the same pharma .dah…lol. good to here you got your order……Chris i would like to know more about the other ,offshore-pharma..how do you find them compared to Pharma2u ?….thanks Chris

Thanks Chris..

Hi Chris,thats great you finally got your order …do you think there could be problems in the future Chris ?was your order from Offshore or Pharma ?….

Hi again Anne, seems like just you and me left on here. This order came from Offshore, and really not any difference between Offshore ( they go under the name Darvin) or Pharma. Maybe problems for the future if these are made a controlled drug, not sure about this though. I think you will be an expert on these matters soon lol. Chris

hi anne and chris from next wk co proxamol will be sent from uk through p2u rather than cyprus so it will take a day to arrive all the best

Hi Marco and Chris ,thats good to know …i have sent for my second order …perhalps a little early ,but better safe than sorry …..Thanks Marco

Hi Folks
I’ve never posted on here before, just read some comments.
I, like the rest of us am cheesed off at the wthdrawal of co-proxamol
I have now ordered from Pharma2u 4 times without any problems. Each order takes 8 days to arrive, which I suppose isn’t too bad but like everyone I do grudge every penny for a very cheaply made painkiller
Really just wanted to introduce my self and say Hi as we are all in the same frustrated position.
Is that correct that as from next week Pharma2u will ship from UK ?

Oh…………………….. Did anyone see this following info I wll attach, at least it prob means we will be able to syill get co-prox ok ?

I take it this will be pharma2u’s lot from uk ?

Press Releases
05.12.2007 / Generic Industry News

Co-proxamol ‘to be supplied unlicensed’The manufacturer of one brand of co-proxamol has announced that it intends to continue supplying the drug unlicensed in 2008, following the cancellation of marketing authorisations for the product by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

The body announced in early 2005 that it was advising the removal of the drugs from the market as the risks involved in its use outweighed the advantages.

However, a phased approach was adopted in the withdrawal to allow patients using the substance to be prescribed alternatives.

Now, Meda has stated that its own brand of the substance, Distalgesic, will continue to be made available through its supplier, Clinigen.

The Pharmaceutical Services Negotiating Committee states that co-proxamol tablets will remain in part VIII of the drug tariff, at a price based upon that of the Meda version, from January 2008.

However, pharmacists can elect to any product meeting the generic description if the product is prescribed generically and will be reimbursed at the price detailed in part VIII.

Meda focuses on marketing and market-adapted product development

Earlier this autumn the firm announced the acquisition of Nordic pharmaceuticals firm Recip AB.

HiAndrea and Russ…..welcome ,i have found this site very helpful ,especialy Chris and Marco..i have read your above article and found them interesting ….

http://activeanabolic.com/ancillary/Co-Proxamol.htm

Cheaper elsewere.

Hi Anne, I’m good at the moment anne, thanks, hope you are ok. I think you are a little bit early in your expectations for delivery if it is still comming from cyprus. Mine usually takes 6 to 7 days from order date. Maybe it takes a bit longer to your part of the uk, I’m 35mls south of London.

Hi Andrea, well i sent for my order..9th so i guess it must be coming from Cyprus ,as i have not received my order yet…well i guess il give it another few days ,before i start to moan at them …

Well i live 20 miles from Edinburgh ….perhalps it takes a little longer for them to climb them thar hills ….lol Cheers Chris &Andrea

Hi John …you must be one of the lucky ones ….or its me i must be one of the unlucky ones ….how do you find the ones that come from Pakistan ?..

Hi Chris .somehow i think this order will come from Cyprus ..if you remember this happened before .,i think i had to wait 3 weeks …

Hi June ,glad to hear your doc is more sympathetic than mine ,i did try to talk to my doc about being put on a name base system …but i got [i dont do name base ]so i was given codrydomol and they made me sick …..as i was a nurse for 25 yrs ,the pain in my back and neck is the result off heavy lifting ,im in my late 40s now but have to live with the pain …as i was told ,as it was wear and tear [docs words ]so i have spent all these years helping to look after people …not that i regret it for one min,,so now when i need some help ,i cant get it …i found with coprox i could take a couple in the mornig,and still carry on with my job ,as i only take 3 per day …but doc said no can do ,so thats why i have to send away for them ,to fight the medical profession June …well you may as well hit your head of a brick wall,,,,

Sorry June, typo on the last post. Very rude of me. Blame the lack of analgesia and sharp pains in back and down right leg !!!

Hi Anne T, Russ & Andrea, I sympathise deeply that you’ve not been able to build up a mutual trust & respect relationship with your GPs enough for him to trust you not to sue him should you have any problem from taking the drugs he prescribes for you, for that is what it boils down to ! For him to say he has been TOLD not to prescribe it for you is rubbish ! Yes, the law is wrong &, apparently 70% of GPs voted against it, but swearing & moaning is not the right way to go about changing it. Email your MP & urge him to support Anne Begg’s efforts to have a review of the decision. Also, have you read Dr. Bateman’s article in ‘behind medicalheadlines.com’? Coprox. CAN BE a very dangerous drug for SOME people & even taking 2 more than the advised dose has killed people, there’s no antidote & death is rapid – before you get to hosp. !! So, lets be realistic about it. Having said that, some 40% of hosp. admissions are said to be due to iatrogenic (drug induced) causes !! Apparently, due to this recent law, the cost of coprox. has rocketed from under £3/100 before to more than £20/100 now !! Not to mention the rip-off of folks like you who are having to get it from the internet & the dangers of such a drug now being available to potentially vulnerable people who should NOT be taking it due to their medical history or other drugs they are taking ! What a shambles !So, lobby your MP !!Change your GP !! Good luck & best wishes June-retired SRN SCM HV

Hi June took on board your comments ,i do have agood rapport with my Doctor ,who he himself is angry that he cant prescribe coprox ,as far as im aware thre is no Doctor allowed to prescribe coprox …only allowed in hospitals where patients can be monitored ….yes i know there is no antidote ,as being a nurse myself..i have been with patients at A&E when they have died from respiratory failure due to coprox …not accidental ..suiside i hasen to add, so you are a very lucky lady ..to have the trust &respect of your Doctor. i truly hope i have the trust and respect of my Doctor ……but thats not going to change his mind ,to handing me a prescripion Anne Tay SRN

I’m sorry you took it like that, Anne. I was trying to bring some common sense into the discussion &, your being a nurse, I expected you to know all I was saying already. Some doctors are notoriously defensive when dealing with the nursing profession as many of them are not used to being questioned by someone who knows nearly as much as they do about some things & perhaps even more about others & they feel very threatened. That is THEIR problem. We have a right to know the truth about WHY they won’t prescribe drugs for us & what the possible dangers are of the drug, then we can make an informed decision about our own lives. I’m lucky, or rather chose, a GP who respects his patients & is personally & professionally self-confident enough to know who he can safely prescribe a potentially dangerous drug to. I live alone, so there’s no risk of anyone else taking them & he knows that I, being a retired nurse, would never offer them to anyone else. So please, Anne, believe me, I am on your side. I am very put off tho’ by the belligerent & abusive attitude of some of the comments.If we are to win this battle against the people who have made this law we have to use our intelligence & show that we are as well, if not better, informed as they are. And WE can conduct ourselves with dignity too !! Friends , I hope ? best wishes, June

Thank you June …Doctors have told ,not only me but other coprox users ,they could be struck off for handing out prescriptions for coprox.and if my Doctor tells me that then i will believe him ,he my Doctor is also angry .and as you know and i know coprox is a good painkiller ,it has been around for 40 years ….but as its one of the big guns of the pain killer family …and people who are no longer stable in mind know if they take this drug to end thier life..well,there is no turning back …so because off this we no longer can have them prescribed,i know my Doctor very well .so if he says he will not prescribe or do name base, well ,me personaly will go elswhere,i will not coz him anymore agro than he is getting at this moment ,with other coprox users ….All the best June

Anne looks in …looks right then left ..coast clear ? ok Hi all.Andrea have you had any luck with your order? to think thats all i wanted to say today ..and wam!! i got ambushed lol

Hi everyone, If you REALLY want to change the law re. coprox., go to http://www.petitions.pm.uk & ‘view petitions’ then ‘health,well-being & care’, scroll down to 300- & sign P.E.G.Cope’s petition “To allow patients to indemnify their GPs to continue to prescribe you co-proxamol” & sign it, please ! Otherwise, you’ll surely find the price will go up & up to you, & you don’t know what rubbish may be in the tabs from abroad,even ingredients which may be harmful. If you sign it,you may also help folks who can’t afford to buy from abroad. Closing date April 11th. best wishes June

Hi Andrea . that WAS quick ,the thing is i dont stay in a rural part of Scotland..so its not as if Post has to do a Helicopter drop lol..hope you are well ..

OK .June, petition signed but with only 43 signatures,mmm …well

has any body had any side effects or problems with distalgesic tablets from cyprus 2 april 2008

hi Chris ,everything ok with you ?

Hi Folks
Received another order from P2U today after a slightly longer wait that usual, 10 days this time instead of the usual 7 or 8 days. The thing that drew my attention was, normally they have been stamped Limassol but this time the stamp was different and it was postmarked ‘Girne’ which I beleive is North Cyprus. Although the tablets are still Phadisco and the box is the same, the patient information leaflet is different. Also, the envelope had 1.40′s worth of British stamps on the envelope too which I found strange. Anyway………………………..probably useless information just wanted to keep you updated. Also, Anne, I thought of you having to wait longer than us and hope you don’t have to wait even longer still ! Hope you are all well Take care

Hi Anne, Received my order from p2u today, 6 days from order date. Post detail is stamped Limassol. I can’t think of any reason why it takes so much longer to reach you. If i move to Scotland I’ll Know to order early.

hi i have been reading your comments about pharma2u i made an order for diazepam these to came from limissol cyprus seemed to be ok wondered if anybody had diazepam/valium from p2u would like to know

hi anne you still not having much luck regarding the co proxamol shipment?

hello anne sorry for delay ive been now told that they will be offically sent from the uk as from now on so our next orders should arrive within 2 days bout time really so at least there is less risks off delay i hope your postal delay gets sorted soon all the best

If you use this web address, http://www.pharma2u.com you should have no problem obtaining Distalgesic. I have used this pharma many times with no problem. Delivery should only take a few days, unless you
live in Scotland where it can longer. (ref to Anne )

Hi Anne, Are you sure you have not upset someone at p2u, the race is on now i have just ordered this evening. Did you have to pay more on your order? my cost today was £40. They have introduced a delivery charge now, I’m not best pleased about that, i will be using offshore more now while it is
approx £7 cheaper per 100.

Chris ,are the coprox the same as the ones from Pharma ?

Anne, The item can be found on their Home page under pain killers, it goes under the name Darvocet then in brackets (distalgesic). The item comes as Darvin and has coprox stamped on the foil. It is exactly the same ingredients as Distalgesic. Del usually 8 to 21 days mine, usually 9 so possibly not much worse than you get from p2u. If you don’t receive it by 21 days they will reship for free which has happened to me twice in approx 20 months, use regular post.

Hi Anne, I have received my order from p2u today, longest time so far 11days. Placed an order same day to Offshore received it last week after 6days the quickest time so far. The wind must have been behind this pigeon.

Hi Anne, The p2u came from Cyprus, I chose regular post, perhaps should have chosen the registered post option i think they were both £5. It seems like the regular mail is slower, i will give them a miss for a while, just mainly due to price.

If you use this web address Anne, http://www.offshore-pharma.com scroll down the front page to painkillers, there you will see Darvocet. If you follow that through you will get to darvon (Generic distalgesic) should be listed at $55 for 100.

Just reading down and perhaps you should be registered on BBC.ouch to see that there are people who have got and are getting the drug you are on about.

Hi Anne, You are not rid of me yet, i hope you are ok. I wrote to p2u regarding their postage add on costs, received a reply from our Jane Smith stating- they cannot survive any more without charging for postage. It has cost them thousands last year and it is the best they can do to survive with other costs increasing for them. I don’t know if all that is true, but if you have to buy from them you have to put up with it, offshore has not changed yet, the last order was 6 days only. Nice to hear from you again, i was getting a bit bored its gone very quiet on here.

Hello to you all,i wont to tell you all to go back to your doctors and ask if you can be referred to a pain clinic.
I have just got some co-proxaml on prescription, because of the request of my pain clinic Consultant as everything they gave me just made me ill or in more pain and Co-proxamol was the only thing that gave me relief and I need lots of relief as I had a triple spinal fusion three years ago, but I am still left with a lot of pain, they said I could have co-proxamol if I agreed to take it as an unlicensed drug, so I did and I got a prescription.
I have read all your sad story’s and as a sufferer myself my heart goes out to you all, I do hope this will help some of you.
Stella.

Chris have you tried Destirol …ment to be coprox,cheaper £19.50..

Well Chris i sent away for my coprox today ,well you never know they may put the price up ..so i will have to stock pile lol …i see what you mean,. i have to pay postage this time ..they get you every way they can …………..there we go moan moan moan i knew it wouldent take long lol lol ….take care ..

Oh we are always willing to help Cos ..sure we are Chris ?lol take care Cos….

I expect that was a record delivery time for you Anne, you must have used the registered post. With the ordinary mail option its quicker to use a rowing boat to go and collect it from my experience.

Hi All,

If you want a really humbling read, might I suggest you write a letter to the MHRA asking for copies of all letters and emails they have received on the subject of Coproxamol for the 18 month period from 1st January 2007 to 30th June 2008. If you mark this request clearly in your enquiry as a Freedom of Information Act request, the MHRA are required by law to answer you.

Enquiries should be addressed to: Tony Sant, Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, Market Towers, 1 Nine Elms Lane, London SW8 5NQ

Hi jus to say are people aware that Julia George of BBC Breakfast is hoping to do an article on the coproxamol problem. Look at sleepydust+coproxamol and/or BBC OUCH +coproxamol for more info.

hi, offshore-pharma no longer list darvocet (co-prox) as of today, it’s on the front page but returns nothing on searching, and pharma2u won’t allow login (incorrect e-mail/password), and no reply to e-mails. has anyone else had this problem, or is it just me? anyone got any other ideas as to reputable suppliers?

Hi Chris, thanks for the quick reply, checking again today it does seem that offshore are updating, but as for p2u i’m having no luck at all, have registered ok, but when i try logging in it just says incorrect e-mail/password, i guess i’m just being shunned , thanks again, B.

Hi Chris how are you ? ok i hope….

I have been managing to get coproxamol for my arthritic pain and migraine headaches up until now. Now I am told I have to pay £20 per 100 tablets on a private prescription. Its a disgrace. I cannot take any other legal drug for analgesia. I have auto immune hepatitis, so mustn’t go mad with paracetamol which incidentally is as much use to me as a chocolate teapot, anti-inflammatories have nearly hospitalised me and if I take anything with codeine in it I spend hours shouting down the Great White telephone. Tramadol gives me nightmares and hallucinations and I can do without those! Don’t these people live in the real world? FFS, we can’t use marijuana which is the only other thing that helps.

Somebody must be on the make here. that’s the only answer.

HELLO ANNE HOW SOON ARE YOU RECIVING YOUR ORDERS NOW ? AND ARE THEY FROM THE UK?

Hi,
I can’t get logged in to p2u and tried Offshore for first time – can’t get an account registered as it keeps asking me to fill in the box for (U.S.) state. Am I missing something here?
Are there any other suppliers anyone know of?

Avril, I made a mistake on my last comments, you should type in (none) not N/A. You should be directed what to put in anyway.

Can anyone advise if they have lost their doctor because of this? Mine freely admitted his practice were not prescribing Coproxamol because the Medical Defence Union said they shouldn’t. He confirmed I had a clinical need, but basically said tough, find another doctor. My lawyer says refer him to the GMC, but to be honest I don’t really blame mr GP, so have referred Dr Breckenridge, Chair of the MHRA instead. Anyone else of a similar mind?

My elderly mother has been taking co-proxamol for nearly 30 years and for the last 2 years it has been a fight with her GP every time she asks for them. Her pharmacist told is to tell the GP that he can still prescribe this drug for patients he feels should remain on them and she (the pharmacist) is happy to prescribe them for as long as she has them. She told me that its the best drug for pain relief on the market and as long as she has them in stock she will prescribe them. I told the GP this once I got passed his blockade (being his receptionist, the most unpleasant excuse for a human being) and he didn’t want to know.

My mother has tried Co Dydramol, Co Codomol, Tramadol and even Codeine Phosphate and none of them work. My mother asked for a prescription today and he had a go at her for asking him, he agreed to prescribe them however when I went to pick the prescription up, the receptionist went for me like a bull! She was shaking in anger, glaring and gritting her teeth, she shouted as she threw the prescription at me that My mother was NEVER EVER to ASK FOR THIS DRUG AGAIN and DID I UNDERSTAND? I have never been so close to hitting someone as I was then.

I calmly advised her to NEVER EVER speak to me like that again, I advised that the GP can prescribe this drug and he has chosen not to. I advised her also that when my mother’s medical details are to be discussed I will do this with her GP and not with a receptionist for all and sundry to hear and DID SHE UNDERSTAND?

I have had episodes like this since my mother became house bound 20 months ago and I am fit to be tied. I will not let this go and will fight wherever possible to get my mother the only drug that gives her some quality of life, as she has very little of it and they have taken away the only help she had, which is Co=Proxamol.

I have read many of the postings here and I am so sorry this is happening and its all so unnecessary, it makes me sick to my stomach. I bet suicides go up 10 fold because this is so many people’s only life line. I hope this gets turned around and that you all and my mother get the drug they need and deserve.

I will bookmark this site and will read your postings with great interest.

Best wishes to you all.

Hi Everyone,

Am in the middle of putting together a publication called LETTERS FROM THE EDGE – THE COLLAPSE OF GORDON BROWN’S MORAL AUTHORITY.

The thing is, many of the letters to be published are copies from people adversely affected by the collapse of the Coproxamol Named Patient safety net who wrote in complaint to the MHRA. All make humbling reading. Although ALL copies we obtained under the Freedom of Information Act are redacted with ALL personal details removed and or blanked out, there is a technical issue of copyright.

Consequently, are any of the contributors here able to send me copies of their letters, with the appropriate parts blanked out, and permission to reproduce in the one publication as named above. The aim is to continue fighting, and embarass Alasdair Breckenridge, and his boss Dawn Prinarolo, and her boss Gordon Brown into fixing this broken government policy that has left so many in unmedicated pain. It was through everyone posting on sites like this, that Julia George did the excellent BBC Breakfast Television coverage, and via these efforts not to give up, that government policy will be repaired.

Best regards,

Russ McLean

To Russ McLean – You may use anything you find signed by me. I have a great fid of stuff I’m getting ready for my MP next week if you’d like a copy of that over the email. paulcope1@btinternet.com

Have not heard from Chris ….where are you ?oh by the way my last order lol arrived in Wales ,guess the pigeon got side tracked.hope things are ok Chris.

barrie,

I’d love to hear how you got on in Malta. How easy was it to get supplies? Are they available over the counter? How much do they cost? Please, I’m desperate to get a stockpile together to see me through.

God the MHRA suck. I just hope they can sleep at night. I know I can’t.

Hi Avril,

You are a star. We are all shaping up for a the Glenrothes By Election and will be giving copies of the book away to the candidates and various political parties as well as a humongous leaflet drop.

Just as well, because I received a letter from MSP John Swinney this morning. He enclosed a reply from Shona Robison, the Scottish Health Minister which said the MHRA were imoveable. Wait till Gordon Brown loses Glenrothes. The arrogance at MHRA HQ is about to preceed a rather steep fall when P45′s are handed out. They will be thanking their lucky stars they aren’t up on criminal charges at the Hague. Talk about cruel and inhumane conduct. The fools at Market Towers know full well their Named Patient safety net policy for prescribing Coproxamol has collapsed and they are content to leave patients to live and die in untreated pain and suffering. They are a disgrace.

Couldn’t post to this recently – anyone else having trouble?

Hi iv been to Malta on holiday…coprox £3.50 for 100 ehh you can buy them over the counter ..Hi Chris long time no type …how are you ?

HI Chris ,how are you good to hear from you again ,hope you are well …restictions i box from each chemist was all i asked for lol …did not want to seem greedy loldid a little survey only 3 out of 15 chemists said i should have a prescription …customs no prob never asked …so every thing was ok, dont think i done anything illegal …so no will not require pharma 2 u for a little some time lol ..catch you later Chris

hi i suffer from tension migraines, i am going to order some co-codamol from pharma2u, can anyone tell me if they are ok and do they deliver what they promise, i badly need these tabs for my tension migraines and my doctor just keeps giving me some other rubbish which doesnt work, anyone got any opinions on them, much appreciated

hi thanks for the comment, my doctor is a hater of co-codamol, he very rarely gives it out unless you go in there in complete agony with something. he gave me co-proxomal which didnt work, and some other medication, that didnt work either. the only thing that does work is co-codamol as it relaxes the muscles and nerves in my face enough for me to sleep and get rid of the headache. these cluster headaches can go on for 3 days at a time and so i need the meds so i can stop it interfering with my life. thanks for the info, i will order tomorrow

Hi Chris how are you ? this site was vacant for so long i thought everyone had gone to Malta lol…well how are you Chris keeping well i hope …i am working between 2 laptops at the moment ,one old ,and one that runs on gas,can’t get this site on my [new old one ]no matter what i try ,so i will will jump between both …take care Chris …Anne

Hi anne and chris. Whats it like working for Pharma2U??? I placed an order on the 7th November and waited due to the supposed stock problem but thinking you were right placed another on the 26th NOvember.What a stupid fool I am. £80 out of pocket and 6 BS emails from jane and co and still no products, even though it was supposedly sent by First Class recorded. If my roduct appears I will post my apology, but if it doesnt (which Im sure it wont) then you should be ashamed of yourselves taking money off people in real pain. I swear I will either find out who you are or pay for a website to shut you down. Like I say, if I get the Distalgesic I have paid for I will post for other sufferers but if you don’t see any post then NEVER BUY from PHARMA2U!!

Thanks Chris for your predictable reply.
So its now 24 days since my first order and 5 since my second and £80 has gone but NO Distalgesic!!. Now they claim they have sent the second by 1st Class recorded but there is no record of it!!. Heres some info for all possible isiots like me. The site Pharma2u is run through THE PLANET.COM internet services in the USA and the company Pharma2U is registerd in England under Company Number: 05320822. There are only 2 directors -: RAI, JATINDER SINGH & PUREWAL, BHINDER SINGH. The phone number given is FALSE and BT says it isnt in use. The address is also False and the real address is

[Direct personal info removed for the moment by me, the site owner.]

Now I also have these directors address’s and I will be paying them a visit along with the Fraud squad if no Products appear.
You see Chris or Mr Rai or Mr Purwall whichever you are, I am your worst nightmare. You see I’m retired with too much money and sense and so I will carry out my promise. It is bad anough the Goverment did this too us but I will not stand by and let a couple of Con-men do the same.
Thats all for now Chris……Like I say I’ll post the truth if the products appear but as the emails have not dryed up I doubt it very much.
REMEMBER UNLESS YOU I POST IT HERE DO NOT BUY DISTALGESIC FROM THESE PEOPLE.

Sorry Lyle……frustartion got the better of me. The reason I am so mad is that before you do anything on the net you try and take precautions. The only forum where Pharma2u is discussed in detail,as to whther they are reliable, is here and so based upon here is where I decided to go forward. As for the 2nd order…well ur right ..I was really stupid but I dared to hope that maybe I would get the order the 2nd time based on the mere faint hope that the first one was lost in the post. Unfortunately, even though I am still emailing pharma2u daily they refuse to reply and I am left hanging. I’m sure now that the site is a phoney and wanted other sufferes to know not to Order from them. I say again though, I will post directly on here if these orders do turn up but I advise no-one to order from them until I have some definate news. Sorry again for putting you in an awkward position !!

Chris…I hope andpray you are right. After all, it was ur comments on here that made me beleive I had found the answer to my problems. If it is tru that you are a fellow suffere then you will appreciate what anguish I am going through. If the distalgesic arrives I will post and let people know evn though it is so long now. I have at this moment in time no pain releif and so am in pain whilst waiting for Pharm2u. My problem is ,how can I possibly trust offshore-pharma if I am having too much trouble. Tell me Chris..do you live in the UK? because I do and I was wondering if there was an issue if we are in Different Countries. I would say one last thing..that is that if you are getting your orders with no problems from Pharma2u then you might like to advise them that they are getting a bad press at the moment and should definately answer there critics. I only want what I paid for…you tell me chris..what should I do..my emails go unread and although my money has been taken there is no Distalgesic. There phone number is invalid and you are the only person who seems to be getting any distalgesics. Even you have to think that makes you look like you work for them!!!

Hi – Just a quick comment re: P2U. I ordered in the middle of last month. I got the emails from Jane re~ stock shortages and as time went by I began to get that sinking feeling. I even sent them (and they will know who I am if theyre reading this) a very nasty email talking about scammers and police. So, when I had to eat humble pie, I did with grace. The tablets all turned up today. One comment is that they seem to be smaller than the ones I get from the doctor and the supplier of them is one Ive never heard of. They do seem to work, but I dont think they are quite as potent as the ones I get on prescription, althogh they claim to be the same strength at 32.5mg . The bottom line is that they work, and they turned up. Lets face it, we all know that these are prescription drugs and the fact that we are buying them from P2U means that a doctor is refusing to prescribe – or as in my case, restricts me to 6 a day. Im worried that Im addicted to these things and I think thats an issue I need to address. But, thats not P2U’s fault – its mine and I chose to order off them. No one forced me. They did deliver and although Jane’s emails do smell like B/S – they are not. P2U is genuine but I reckon the tablets may be under strength – slightly. Will report back when Ive taken a few days worth. I may be wrong, could just be mind over matter etc.

Having said all that, As I know they are reading, thanks P2U for delivering but are these tablets full strength?

Hi, Ok, heres the hat trick. Sorry for posting three in a row – but I felt that I had to share the content of a telephone call I have just had with Jane from P2U. Jane called me as a result of an email I sent to P2U. I was, like Mike above, getting very frustrated with with what I thought was the simple fact that I had been conned. The email I sent to P2U was, shall we say, rather direct to the point!! The day after I sent the email, the tablets arrived. As I said in #260 they seemed under strength – but having taken a few now, I can see I was wrong – they are ok.

During our call Jane explained the delays and also confirmed that she had refunded me, in full, although I had received my tablets. I had not asked for a refund – this was simply a show of good faith from her.

Jane accepted that over the past month or so P2U could have done things differently, like me more up front about supply problems and also suspending sales of Co-Prox whilst out of stock. I found her explainations made sense and were both polite and frank. I got the impression that Jane is someone who does actually care about her customers and quite frankly, you dont get that from blue chip companies these days – let alone an online pharmacy. Yes, they make a profit – but We know the price before we buy and if it wasnt for P2U and the few other genuine companies like them, many of us would be in agony. I found Jane to have one of the best attitudes to a customer I have ever heard, and the full refund (without either being asked for it, or having to do it) speaks volumes.

Now I know that this post will smell, taste and feel like Im a P2U employee but I know I am not. WE all make mistakes, and P2U are no exception but I can say, with absolute and total honesty, they are a GENUINE company, and I very much appreciated the call I got from them.

I will, with total confidence, be buying from them again.

Hi Mike,

I really must come to the defence of Pharma2U, and especially Jane Smith. I will post my real name so you can check out that I am not a P2U employee, but someone stricken by the disgraceful UK MHRA bungling of the Coproxamol ban.

I can recommend P2U as legal, decent, honest and truthful as per the UK Advertising Standards mantra. Better than that P2U have saved my bacon, and my health. Jane especially has been an extremely understanding, thoughtful and decent human being.

So PLEASE Mike, no matter how much pain you are in, and no matter how much like Victor Meldrew you feel like moaning, PLEASE accept that P2U are having serious logistic problems. For my part, when the going got tough, P2U was there for me, and then some. So it behoves every one of us that P2U have supported to reciprocate that support.

My sincere hope is the P2U get the new deliveries they need in order to recover their ability to supply ourselves, and Jane, if you are reading this, please keep up the good work. The vast majority of us very much appreciate your work and efforts.

Very best regards,

Russ McLean.

P.S. Anne, my apologies for the delay in making progress. I received your letters thankyou very much. Just been physically unable to work at all for the past three months.

Well if anyone has any suggestions on pharmu 2 u i would be grateful, still no joy, does anyone know what is going on with them. my last order was fine and now nothing, are they having problems with their stock

I’m an 80 year old (almost) and cannot take any other pain killers, this keeps me walking and living actively. How do I get a private prescription? I can’t seem to buy any distalgesic online. It is a disaster

Hi Sammy,

Sorry its taken a while to answer you. I forgot all about this forum but thought Id take a quick look. It seems to be taking about 7 – 10 days from order to when tablets arrive. I think the main reason is that they are ALL being sent from abroad.

The only way to contact Pharma is by email as their phone number never seems to work. I have found that they do respond and as I have said, Anne is the one you should address your email to. Just put “ATTN ANNE” in the subject line.

Im pleased to see that your order has arrived. I have one outstanding at the moment and Im not overly worried at the moment. I think as long as you know you need to allow around 10 days for delivery, then you should be ok.

I know Anne does read this and other forums, so Anne if you are looking in – It may be an idea just to say on the website that delivery is currently 7 – 10 days due to international posting.

and to answer Derek (267) the ONLY place I know that you can get CoProx online that isnt a scam website is at Pharma4u their website is here: http://pharma2u.com/

This is just advice – You buy at your own risk. They take about 7 – 10 days to deliver, but they do deliver. All the best to you.

Hi MarkB. Not sure if this is Legal but i would take them of you, if we can agree i would send e-mail address.

Hi Mark. Thanks for that, e-mail has been sent. pharma2u are having problems with del at present if anyone else would like to know. I have been waiting for 3 weeks.

I put an order in to pharma2u on 21 Feb but I just tried to look at their site to try and check on it and their web site has disappeared.
Has anyone been in touch with them lately?

Hi
As a regular customer of Parma2u, I am horrified at the latest bust!!
I have never ordered anywhere else before and went to check out Offshore, but I can’t find co-prox/distalgesic/darvocet anywhere on their site?!?! HELP?!?
Have they possibly taken them off?
Anyone ordered from anywhere else?
Also, I read on Drugbuyers that as from 13th April, it is illegal to purchase any drugs online?! What on earth is happening here?!
Chris, are you still able to buy from Offshore?

Hey Chris
Good to hear from you too!
I will email them and ask for the link then, now I know what’s going on. Thank You.
Can you tell me what name they have them under? DG/Co-prox or Darvocet?
Also, roughly, how long do you find their delivery normally takes?
Many Thanks!:)
Take Care

Hey Chris
Checked Offshore again first before attempting sister site and they are listed today. I did email them but as yet, they haven’t replied. Anyway, after finding them listed now, I ordered this morning. Many Thanks for your help. I will let you know how I get on.
Andrea.

The item your looking for Avril is there one day and not the next, Andrea managed to catch the item on wednesday from Offshore. The miniTeller it seems is not available yet except for the USA and Canada.

Hi Andrea, i am surprised the site is back, not surprised about the DG though. The DG was there a couple of days ago but has been removed. I don’t know anymore than that at the moment. You may find out yourself if you get a reply back from them. Keep us updated, thanks. Chris.

just to let you all know i think it been sorted now i finally recieved an email from themsaying my order is being sent out tommorow so hope all goes well for you all

Hi All
Just wondered how everyone was doing?
Marco did you receive your order?
I see they have a bit on their homepage about waiting until UK authorities are done before they are shipping UK orders. I still haven’t had any word back from them despite emailing them about 5 days ago?!

Chris……..Regarding Offshore. That’s 8 days since i paced that order and every time I check the order status, It still says “pending shipment” Do you know if this is normal?
I don’t find then very “customer friendly” As I emailed them 9 days ago when D/G were not listed and I still have not had a reply?! Then I emailed 3 days ago stating my order status had lay at “shipment pending” for a rather long time?! Still no answer from either?!?
To be on the safe side, I placed an order on P2U on Tuesday but after seeing the little bit written on their page, I guess I will just need to be patient there also?!

The Joys?!?

hi andrea i think they are coming from cyprus again at the moment as they said for me to allow 5-7 days a pain i know its allready been 3 weeks at least. untill i got the email … no luck with your emails yet?? mark

Hi Marco……..
No, still no order or no email yet?!
Have you received your order yet?

Chris, I emailed Veripayment but as of yet, no reply from them either?! Whilst searching for an alternative contact email for Offshore, I came across a forum discussing them and their deliveries. One guy had same scenario as mine…….order still showing “pending shipment” 2 weeks later but the replies were saying that they have also had this situation even AFTER their order had been shipped and had a link for Veripayment account info which apparently tells you if and when order is shipped. I followed the link and as far as I can see, it looks like my order placed on 11th was shipped on 13th. So, I guess I will just need to wait and see. Still nothing from P2U.

Hope you are both well

Hi Andrea. Good detective work for you find out that info, you should be ok now its been shipped.I have been unable to order this item from them now even though it is listed, looks like a miniTeller is going to be required at some point. As for p2u no idea whats happening there, can’t order from them either, its all going tits up. But i will be keeping tabs on them, (pardon the tabs pun there) anyway good luck. Chris

Veripayment are no longer processing payments for Offshore-Pharma. Matrix seem only to accept miniTeller, i have asked about using a debit card. No reply. There does not seem to be a way of ordering DG unless P2u comes back on line. If anybody knows anything different, would be glad to hear about it.

Hi marco, thanks for the info, yes they have been offline 5 days, but when i see maintenance i think it covers maybe a bigger problem, they could have at least put up a notice saying they would be offline for a few days, check back later message is not very customer helpful. But as you say they have been offline before so we will see. Thanks, Chris.

I have received an e-mail from P2u today, they hope to be back within a couple of days. Fingers crossed on that one.

I too am waiting for two separate orders from P2U.
Has anyone here talked to a solicitor about suing their health board over postcode prescribing of Co-proxamol?
It might be useful to know in which areas it could/could not be obtained from a GP.
As far as I can tell, here in Ayrshire & Arran no GP is prescribing it.
I can’t take Tramocet because the manufacturer (not my GP!) have warned about severe even fatal effects of taking it with other drugs which affect serotonin levels -such as migraine drugs or anti-depressants.

Hi Chris,

Do you, or does anyone on this Board have an alternate email contact for Pharma2u to their old email address?. I tried their old email and no answer.

Am endeavouring to contact Pharma2u’s Defence Lawyer in order to support Pharma2u in court against the MHRA:

1 – Complete and utter ba77s up of the Coproxamol issue;

2 – The MHRA ignoring the UK Parliament (twice);

3 – Two MHRA doctors being reported to the GMC for alleged professional misconduct;

4 – The Panorama documentary team advising the MHRA have featured in probably more of their exposes than any other organisation;

5 – The fact that thousands, probably tens of thousands of UK patients have been left to live and die in untreated pain because of the MHRA bungling with some publicity hungry MHRA no-mark gloating over “”fake” drugs in their much publicised UK raid.

The old saying people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

So if anyone can put me in touch with the Pharma2u Defence Lawyer, I would be most obliged.

Cheers,

Russ

Hi Russ. I do have a new e-mail address but in light of whats going on right now i don’t if i am doing the right thing to put it up here. They have had thousands of e-mails so maybe they are being a bit selective as to who to reply to.
I can inform you that the e-mail address i used and had a reply within 12 hrs was admin@pharma2u.com, addressed to Jane.Maybe i was just lucky because i have corresponded with Jane often. Try again Russ they might be back up shortly. Someone else might give out alternative e-mail other wise you would have to contact me privately.Good luck.

Hi All,

In spite of an email from pharma2U last week saying an order would be shipped on the 20th I have not received either the February or March order yet, though the money has been taken for both of them.
I emailed again but so far no reply. Keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow.

BTW Russ – how did you get on with your book ‘Letters From the Edge’? I sent you some letters which I hope you got – I couldn’t follow up at the time as we got turfed out the house then while the council did building work.
No, I’m not from Blackrock, and not Arran – I’m across the water in Prestwick, but it’s the same health board.

Cheers,
Avril

P2u non appearance is not good, i have e-mailed them again to day. If i get a reply will post details.

P2u Site seems to be back up, perhaps they were catching up with back orders. Price up as well.

Thats not good news Avril, who is going to buy the inflated price of this item now if the Dr will not write the prescriptions. They have not actually stated this on their web site as yet. Cannot buy from Offshore either need a MiniTeller for that. Not good all round.

Both orders from Pharma2U arrived today including twenty extra tablets.
Huge relief especially since I can’t get past the Veripayment name & address page on Offshore for some reason.

I remember Anne saying she was able to buy some Coproxamol while in Malta. Has anyone else managed to buy them without scrip in Europe? (something to take into account now when planning a holiday, as well as climate!!)

Avril

I went 2 malta in november and brought 11 boxes home with me cost me £38 no script just like buyin a box of paracetamol….am going again beginin of may partly 4 them and partly 4 a holiday same box that comes from pharma2u makes u think how much money they r making sellin co proxamol.

i am thinking flying to malta just for 1 or 2 day trip for co proxamol, ive checked forums for driving there, seems a bit expensive, well any way im male 44 years of age single but thats not the point , what i would like is maybe some others who would like to come with me and share costs maybe? email me pls if you would consider this as i would like to go some time this month april, my email is star4.5@hotmail.com

Oh Dear!
Looks like Parma2U site is down again. :S
Anyone heard anything about it?

Chris, How are you doing?

Hey Chris

Oh dear! I’m so sorry to hear you were made redundant! Jeez, it’s everywhere! My husband was make redundant last months and it’s no joke! I’m thinking of you.

Ah, that’s good to know about P2U.
I hope you’re feeling much better.
Take Care.

Yeah, hopefully they will get back to normal soon.

If anyone would like to buy co-proxamol please get in touch smcctw@aol.com £35 for box of 100 free delivery paypal account or postal orders.

Hi Anne, its great to hear from you again, and you seem to be in high spirits. Glad you got your laptop sorted.
The news is P2u after being raided is unstable, their web site is up and down like a yoyo. Offshore-Pharma stopped doing credit card transactions, so obtaining DG is tough unless of course like yourself you can go to Malta, now that you have the new laptop i will be expecting to hear from you again sooner rather than later. Welcome back. Chris.

Well i only take three a day so i could come off them …and try some other pain killer …its such a shame Chris ,they really are a good pain killer

I’ve used my real name instead of pill popper
Nigel.

[Edited by Lyle, Site Owner] – I think Nigel means he’s also posted previously here as pill popper. I’ve amended the commenter name to reflect that (on this post).

Hi Chris ,i sent a email to Pharma2u ,got a reply …Quote- Dear Anne ..only got Distalgesic Phadisco …From Jesselyn..

COULD THINGS BE LOOKING UP LOL

Got a reply from Jess ..DG will cost £45 but we must buy 5 boxes ..and we get one free to pay for the money we would be out for the money transfer ….hope this helps

Thats £41 profit on 100 DG

Hi Anne, Yes i have seen the price before the site went down again and i was not amused. I checked for doing a transaction with Western Union for Offshore and it was £12. Buy 5 boxes at £45ea. that’s a big outlay. I don’t think it would be much cheaper from Offshore at the present exchange rate. Perhaps i should give up the chase soon for buying these items, especially as i am now redundant. Thanks for the info though Anne, i will keep looking to try and find a better deal. Chris.

Well I am new to posting but I’ve read the forum for ages.
I’m an arthritis sufferer and I just wanted to let you know what I know.
Firstly, the lady above (selina) isnt answering emails and so I can only suppose its someone taking enjoyment out of our pain and misery.
Secondly, DO NOT SEND MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION to OFFSHORE Pharma. I have dealt with them for years with no problem using veripayment but now I have lost several hundred pounds sending money to them. Whilst I was dealing with there emails of giving me details of who to send the money to I received updates but now Western Union has sent the money I am not receiving any replies and so it looks like Ive been ripped off.
As for Pharma2u I am unsure what is happening there but I can only pray for something to work. I really don’t understand why everything has gone so wrong so fast. You might expect 1 avenue to breakdown but not all.
Finally, I am looking into going to Malta but I have lost all trust in ppl and so don’t know whether the stories of buying in Malta are also false.

Hi guys just got back from Malta u can get them BUT they have been reduced to 2 strips per box so price has doubled for them some pharmacy’s will only sell you 1 box but if you got a cheeky hubby like me (asked for 30 boxes of 20 tablets ) you’ll be fine but you have to find a pharmacy who’s willing to do that a lot of pharmacys asked for prescription

Thanks Anne Tay, for that advice, ive canceled the trip to Malta, and now looking for other alternatives for D.G.

I am going to try and purchase from Offshore, by Bank transfer. They have just sent me their Banking details and have said they would add to the quantity to make up for transfer fees.
My Bank claim to do an Intertational transfer to anywhere no matter what the item is. I will keep you posted. Thank you to Dorothy for that info on Western Union.

Hi Andrea …they have no idea ,could be next week or the week after ,,Chris what offshore Pharma do you use ?.. so it works out £39 50 per 100 taking into accont the free box ,to cover for Western union charges ..oh oh dear

Chris i got in touch with Western union ,they want £27 from me for a transaction ,you said £16,,is that because i live in the mountains in the far frozen north ?lol ..Pharma told me that if i ordered today they would dispense tomorrow ..in the mean time i pay them through Western union ..has anyone else had this promise….

Jess im afraid gave out the wrong information .oh ..where is jane ?it now seems that Pharma2u have phased out boxes of 100 tablets ,they will now be supplied in boxes of 20 hense the reason for the minimum of 5 boxes per order ,the price of 100 tabs will be £45,but since pharma now ask for payment via Western union who charge up to £27 transfer ,pharma say they will give an extra box of 20 tabs ,so if you order 100 tabs you get 120 tabs at a cost of £45 plus western union fee .just for info i asked for a quote for an order of 500 tabs ,and was quoted £225 plus western union fees of £27 ,making a total of £252 so it works out at 50 pence a tablet …

My own Bank will do Money transfer to Offshore-Pharma, but for a transaction involving $65 this would cost a £10 fee, and an intermediary fee with the conversion approx $20. Not good for a small transaction. Its a shame they don’t do Paypal.

Has anyone managed to find the new site for Pharma2u…seems its under new name of Medica2u.com ..i got email this morning
Hi Chris ….

Hi Nig ..i cant seem to access the site ,is there a combination or am i just thick ….i really do think its the latter …i await for instructions ,,someone anyone lol

AH my fellow country woman …im glad im not the only one ..hold on il give the others a call …..HHEELLPP CHRIS ..MARCO….NIG LOL

Hi NIg i managed to get on to the site ..placed an order ,they confirmed my order ,,but i never paid for them …what happens now ?..YIPEEEEE or have i struck it lucky,somehow i dont think so ..

Hi Anne, I have noticed some excitement on here, whats happening, i must be slipping not getting to this site first. I did not receive an E-mail, probably it was marked up as spam then it was auto deleted. I cannot access this
site it comes up access forbidden. I take it i will have a problem like some others on here, i will keep trying, what payment options are they using?. Thanks, Chris.

Hi Andrea ..you manage to get thru ??

Hi Anne

No, I can’t get through?!
Let’s just say it’s reeeeeeally bugging me now?! :/
If I put my email, do you think it would work if you sent me a link if possible?
Just a thought.
Hope the brain decay improves LOL!